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Description: “Stone Cold” Steve Austin sits down with Mark Henry as the two WWE Hall of Famers discuss The World’s Strongest Man’s decorated career.
Steve Austin: Hey, welcome to The Broken Skull Sessions. My name is Stone Cold Steve Austin. My guest on the show today is The World’s Strongest Man, Mark Henry. Mark, it’s good to see you, man.
Mark Henry: What’s up, man?
Steve Austin: That’s a man’s handshake right there. How are you?
Mark Henry: I try not to squeeze because I don’t want no lawsuits.
Steve Austin: No, no. You ain’t got to worry about squeezing my hand. What have you been up to?
Mark Henry: Well, man, I’m doing radio right now. Sirius XM, a show called Busted Open. And you know, between that and working on “The Life And Times Of The World’s Strongest Man,” the book that hopefully i’ll have finished in the next year, so i’ve been pretty busy.
THE STATE OF THE BUSINESS
Steve Austin: Going back to your Busted Open Radio Show which has been highly successful, you and David LaGreca. You guys break down everything. And now being a hall of famer, what are your thoughts now on the state of how everything is going versus when you and I were, well, you lasted longer than I did kind of running roughshod?
Mark Henry: You know what, Steve. I feel blessed that I was actually able to last longer than you. I know you had injuries that took you away. And that was horrible for the business, same thing with, you know, several other guys that critical injuries happened. So I think by the grace of god I was lucky, too. But I was more blessed to be able to stay in the business for 23 years. I love the business. And I want to see the business go on and be better than it was when we were there. I think that it has the potential to be in the future.
But, you know, you have these 15 year shifts. About every 15 years there’s a big turnover in wrestling. And it takes another five years for those new talents to become a Steve Austin, to become a Mark Henry. And I think that’s where this transitional phase right now, if you want to call it that, is where we are right now. I look at Drew McIntyre, and in the position that he’s in right now. A lot of that is because he’s mature. And they have about 10 more guys that need to mature.
Steve Austin: But that comes with seasoning and that comes with time and it comes with more reps.
Mark Henry: And I think that now they are able to get those reps because The Big Show’s and Shawn Michaels of the world are gone. And they are having that opportunity to get all of those mainstream reps, those main event reps, the 20 and 30 minutes, 40 minutes on the show to prove that they are the cream of the crop if you will. Like you said, it’s going to take time for that to happen.
Steve Austin: How do you watch the business now? Do you watch it, hey, as a fan?
Mark Henry: As an analyst?
Steve Austin: Okay, that’s what i’m asking. Because sometimes if I just take myself out of it and say, hey, man, forget the fact that you were in since ’90 — even though I had to retire from the business, I’m still that guy and still know it. Now I’m able to remove myself from the equation and watch as a fan and enjoy it rather than analyze it. For your radio show, how are you breaking stuff down? How do you separate everything?
Mark Henry: I watch the show as a fan. And I mean I guess the prime example is I love the Mandy and Otis thing going on. I look at it like a fan. It’s hard for me to like Dolph Ziggler because of what’s going on in the story. I know who Dolph Ziggler. But damn, what a bastard. I’ve been a big guy that liked a girl and then this young skinny, pretty boy sneaks in and takes the girl from me. And it brought all that back. And that’s the thing about pro wrestling. I want to look at it as a fan. I’ll analyze it afterwards. I usually have to watch the show twice because i’m caught up in being a fan that I miss things that I need to kind of report, hey, this is not good or this is good. I don’t do the dirtsheet stuff. Like I hate that. I don’t want to discuss the inner workings of what it is that we do. The magic is important to me. There’s some stuff we just got to keep to ourselves.
Growing Up In Texas
Steve Austin: Take me back to growing up in Silsbee, Texas. And just coming up and starting to get involved in weight lifting, you know, playing football You said you never were the chosen one, you know. You had a brother that was kind of doing a lot of things and excelling in a lot of things, but you were never the chosen one. Tell me about life growing up for you as a kid and losing your father at the age of 12 and what was the impact on you?
Mark Henry: Yeah, lost my dad at 12. It made a big impact because you tend to want to have mentorship. You want to have somebody that kind of leads you in the direction that you feel like a man should go in. And that’s one of the reasons why I do a lot of mentorship type things. To answer your question, my dad died. My mom, you know, remarried. I didn’t get a long with my stepfather. And I started to rebel. If you said go right, I was going left. I’m just gonna tell you straight off the bat, that’s exactly the way it was. And it didn’t help that my brother was not only Clark Kent, but he was SuperMan. Student body president, salutatorian of the school, an all-american football player. A lot of the reasons that I had so many problems in my early career is that chip on my shoulder to prove to everybody that I measured up.
Steve Austin: What was the age gap between you guys?
Mark Henry: It was only two years. But I felt like he was the chosen one and I had to prove to everybody that I was somebody, too. Rather than doing it by the rules, I was on the other side of the coin.
Steve Austin: When was it that you said, hey, you know, mom, I’ve got to have this weight lifting set?
Mark Henry: I was 12 years old. And my mom bought me one of those D.P for life. You remember the concrete weights? Had the little bars that bent after three weeks.
Steve Austin: One-inch bar, plastic case.
Mark Henry: Dude, that’s my house I grew up in. That’s Jacob and that’s Joanna. Me and all my friends used to sit on that porch and we lifted every day. There was no days off. Everybody knew that I was different because of the way that I used to handle things. And we talk about my dad, a lot of my toughness came from him. He used to put bricks, cinder blocks in the bottom of his trash to keep the dogs from knocking his trash cans over. And I was kind of lazy. So rather than taking the trash and putting it on this little wheely thing and wheeling it out to the street, I would grab the, you remember those little metal trash cans? I’d grab the handles and then i’ll put them on my back like this and I will walk with them. It used to amuse the hell out of him, look at this boy do this.
And I remember saying, why you don’t never tell Pat to take the trash out? My older brother. And he’d punch me, I mean, it was different back then. But it took him two years before we sat on his porch and him say i’m sorry. I didn’t know what he was talking about. It had been two years. And he started crying. You had to be tough. I was learning that the world was not going to hand me anything. If I wanted it, I had to take it. I wish he would have said just stay within the law because I became so overly aggressive that there was a lot of people that didn’t want their kids around me. I appreciate the tough love now. But as a little kid, you don’t know the difference. You know, you just think that’s the way everybody is. My strength is an extension of how I see the world. I wanted to win. I wanted to be somebody.
Steve Austin: In those formative years, did you start running around with the wrong crowd?
Mark Henry: Steve, I was the wrong crowd. Once I realized I was stronger than everybody, and I didn’t mind getting hit, I became a problem. It was like you don’t have your kids over there around them Henry’s. You know, they going to go to jail or something, something is gonna happen. And I had a brother who was SuperMan, who for two years in high school we didn’t speak. Walking in the same house. It was just a rivalry. He was the anti-me. You had SuperMan and Lex Luther living in the same house.
Steve Austin: But y’all took that for a shoot?
Mark Henry: Yeah, we hated each other. It was bona fide hate. He thought I was lazy which, you know, come to find out that my school troubles was the fact that I was dyslexic. Just undiagnosed. It wasn’t that I was lazy, it was I just didn’t understand what was going on. I used to write backwards. Like where there’s a word I can write backwards or a context. Steve Austin has a show that’s very successful. In my mind I would be like Steve Austin has a show that’s really successful, but I would write like, the show Steve Austin successful show. Like just make basic little mistakes. I could do math in my head, but I couldn’t put it on paper. The teacher would be like, well, how did you get that answer? I did it in my head. Who did you cheat off of? Now you’re telling me I cheated?
Weightlifting & The Olympics
Steve Austin: Okay, but going to the weight lifting competition, you started traveling around. You are winning everything by leaps and bounds. All of a sudden, there’s a guy named Terry Todd. Terry Todd for those who don’t know is very famous.
Mark Henry: That’s Terry. Terry said you need to quit playing football and quit track, everything that I was doing. He said if you specialize in just power lifting and olympic lifting, he said you’ll be world champion so many years that, you know, it will be boggling to the mind. So I decided to do it. I moved to Austin, Texas and started training with Terry and Jan, full-time. And the olympic committee called and said, hey, we want you to come to the olympic training center and focus on olympic lifting. That’s what I did. I moved to Colorado Springs and then started my olympic journey.
Steve Austin: How did all of your olympic experiences affect you as far as just fulfilling your competitive desires and you reaching your potential?
Mark Henry: I feel like I did the best that I could do, you know, within the rules. I was not going to take steroids and join the club, if you will. There were guys that told me, man, stop complaining about the steroids because they are going to take the sport out of the games. And I was like I don’t care. I’m still going to lift whether it’s in the olympic games or not. It’s going to be for the love of the sport and it’s going to be the fact that i’m doing the best that I can do without considering competing against people that are cheating. And the olympic committee made promises that they didn’t keep. And thus after the ’96 Olympic Games, I said i’m not going to do it no more. If the olympic committee is not going to help me, i’m not going to be out here helping them and I get the call from Vince McMahon.
Steve Austin: So, how did that call happen?
Mark Henry: Vince called Terry Todd and got my phone number and called me at the training center. And mind you, I was a big time wrestling fan still. About six of the guys that were at the training center with me, they watched wrestling with me every Monday night. So i’m thinking hey, Mark, phone call. All right, I come down the hallway. We’ve got a community phone. Hello. This is Vince McMahon, hey, how you doing? Okay, Wes, clink, hung up on him.
Steve Austin: No one believes when Vince McMahon calls them. So many people have hung up on him because it’s a rib.
Mark Henry: So Terry calls and they are like, Mark, the phone. I answered the phone, hello. What? Oh shit. Mark, I suggest you take his call. Okay, my bad, all right. Hang up. And i’m standing there by the phone now and i’m shaking. I ain’t afraid of nothing. Steve, this is me. I fight a bear with a switch. And i’m shaking. And because of my fandom, how much I loved it, and the phone rings, I grab the phone, not even finished ringing. Hello. He’s like, Mark Henry? I’m like, i’m sorry I hung up, I thought it was one of my friends. He said, ah, don’t worry about it. Just said, man, look, I hear you’re a big wrestling fan. I said yes. He was like I want you to come to Connecticut and see how we do stuff.
And I was like, you know how it is when you get to looking in every direction, you don’t know what to do with yourself. That was wrestling for me. Like wrestling saved me. I fly to Connecticut, man. And, man, I got to meet The Undertaker. I got to meet Yokozuna. And then they told me, this is that way we do business. Our young guys take care of our old guys. Yokozuna needs somebody to drive him to the shows. That’s you. So I was Yoko’s bag carrier and driving him to the shows. It was the best part of my whole career over winning the championship. Yoko treated me like royalty. He was one of them guys, if he said something, you could believe it was the truth. He was like the most honest guy I ever met. And it was a lot of fun. Took me to my first strip club. I love Yoko.
Steve Austin: You don’t drink, you don’t take drugs.
Mark Henry: Don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t take drugs. I just don’t do it.
Steve Austin: But that was the one vice, keep sanity on the road.
Mark Henry: Yeah, man. Like I would go on the road, man, go to strip joints with Yoko and other guys. And just like this actually exists. Like, oh, my god. Like, you know, this young kid just got ruined real quick.
Signing With WWE and Training
Steve Austin: Okay, but when Vince takes you up there and says you’re going to be driving Yoko around and now you’re under the learning tree, but had you started training yet or was that when you signed that big time contract that, you know, got you some heat with the boys?
Mark Henry: A lot of the boys. I mean, even now I guess, if i’m still wrestling, they bring a guy in that’s never wrestled a day in his life, and they pay him twice as much as I’m getting paid, i’m going to be pissed. So I can understand it. And Vince probably could have did a better job of not telling nobody. I wasn’t going to tell anybody. But nonetheless, it got out and it just put a bad taste in people’s mouth. Nobody wanted to train me. Nobody wanted to teach me. They hired Dr. Tom Prichard, who I still consider one of the top five trainers in the world.
Him and Rip Rogers, number one and number two on my list of understanding the business and can teach you in layman’s terms, but also still get in there and put their hands on you and say no, this is not how we do it and teach you everything all the measurements. And I worked with Tom for about six months. And then Dwayne, The Rock, came in, you know. He didn’t have two nickels to rub together and couldn’t afford an apartment by himself. So I told him to move in with me. You know, he lived with me for about six months and then we got sent to Memphis. Two young kids driving the streets.
Steve Austin: Who would have figured way back in the day.
Mark Henry: Look who was driving. Get over there and drive, kid.
Steve Austin: Is that what you told him? Sitting there talking about the number one movie star in the world.
Mark Henry: I’m like the white knuckle express. I drive 100 miles an hour. I turn two wheel motion, everything. He was like, listen, I’m driving. You’re not going to kill me.
Steve Austin: I didn’t know you was a fast driver.
Mark Henry: That’s my thing.
Steve Austin: Talk about fitting in in the early days. You have Dr. Tom training you and some other people helping you. But, you know, you are coming from an elite world where you are treated as that guy because you were. And you were just a powerhouse. And all of a sudden, you come into the world where you’re a fan, but you don’t know really what’s going on. They had a big marketing strategy for you already built in. I mean, they had red, white, and blue everything, coming in off the olympics. I remember al the stuff because I was there when you came in. I said, man, they are about to rocket on this big guy’s ass and shoot him to the moon.
Mark Henry: I love the fact that they pushed it. But I wish almost in a perfect world, that first year rather than my first match be a PPV, you know, put me out there where I succeeded, but at the cost of not integrating me with the boys. Now that the developmental system is flawless, you don’t have that. Away from the main roster, everybody knows there’a developmental system. They make this amount of money. And it has no bearing on what’s going on here, which it really does, but they are not interfering with what’s going on on the show. Nobody is coming up here and going to take your job. I wish that I would have had a year at least, completely away from everybody. And then you could bring me once a month or so, hey, how you doing, shake everybody’s hands, Mark, go meet everybody.
Go to the production office. Know everybody’s name before you leave there. Go to merchandise. Go meet this guy Jimmy Miranda. He tried, god bless him. God rest his soul. He tried to help me, but I was just such a wreck at that point. And I felt like I could hear people talking behind my back and that asshole came out. My defense mechanism was to step outside and say that. And it’s like, man, what’s wrong with you? Are you crazy? No. I just want to fight you because I don’t like the way you look. And I just became that asshole. And nobody wanted to help me. I told you the first time that I met Taker, he was sitting there talking to Yoko. And I walked up and he said, oh, there’s the new babyface. And I was like, I’m not no damn babyface. Like what is that? I was so ignorant to the business, I didn’t know what the terminology is, what none of that was.
Steve Austin: Maybe he was slighting you?
Mark Henry: I thought he was slighting me somehow, but I had that (chip on my shoulder) don’t mess with me type of thing. And people didn’t really know how to take it. You know, it was best to just not talk to me. In pro wrestling, if I don’t talk to you, you don’t learn. So I had a three year period at the beginning of my career where I just didn’t learn shit.
Steve Austin: How old were you when you first entered WWE?
Mark Henry: 27.
Steve Austin: So when you entered the business, you had just come from being the world’s strongest man, so you’re the best of the best. And all of a sudden, you’re going into a locker room of guys that are in the business that you are trying to learn.
Mark Henry: And everything I did in my life didn’t mean shit. But I got really lucky, man, that Taker liked me. And The BSK Guys, Kishi and Yoko and all of them, they took care of me.
Steve Austin: What about the ribbing that you got early on from Ron Simmons and JBL? Because that’s a classic story where they were trying to bring you in, but you didn’t know they was trying to bring you in. And it was the way that was rubbing you the wrong way because you didn’t see what they was doing.
Mark Henry: I had never been ribbed before. I came from Silsbee where people were already afraid of me. And even if they weren’t afraid of me, they respected me. I went to Austin, automatically respect. Went to the olympic training center in Colorado Springs. Won, won, won, hardly ever lost. I lost three lifting competitions in my entire life and two of them were olympic games and one when I was 18. I won a lot. Respect, respect, respect.
I got to wrestling and it was like, man, people started ribbing me, like putting all my clothes in a bag and throwing it in the shower and turning all the showers on and putting padlocks on my luggage. I’m like what is going on here? Like what is happening? And I was entertainment. Not just on television. The entertainment was in the locker room, because if you mess with me, Steve, I will tear this place apart. And guys were like, you want to see something funny? And then they would pick on me. So I didn’t know. John was the pawn and Ron Simmons was such an asshole to me with that.
The Nation Of Domination
Steve Austin: You went on record last time I was down there in Austin, Texas saying Ron Simmons may be the only human being on the planet that you might be a little bit afraid of.
Mark Henry: At that time, he was the only person I ever thought like how would I do it. Like everything was premeditated, Steve. I would look at them. And Ron caught me looking at him one time, and he was like, what you looking at me like that for? You fixing to try me? And I went, no, hell no, like, he scared the shit out of me. And I was just like, no sir, I was just admiring your build. Ron was one of those guys that was like the puppet master of me learning how to be a big man in wrestling. And he was like, if you are going to be in this nation, you need to be able to do everything. That was the beginning. It was like you’re talking about the rocket. It took three years for that to really happen.
Steve Austin: What about being in The Nation Of Domination helped you? Because I mean kind of the ultimate learning three there. Ron Simmons has been around. He’s a veteran. Godfather’s got a million stories. He’s been around. The Rock, D’Lo. Talk to me about how you fit in there and what you took from those guys.
Mark Henry: Man, everybody had a different element of teaching for me. The Godfather didn’t know that he was going to be in the nation until the day that he got to the arena. He got to the arena one day and they said, hey, we’re going to put you in the nation. That’s a strong picture there. D’Lo was probably the best worker of all of us. I remember they said they wanted to have you do something to me or D’Lo on top of this truck. And D’Lo said i’ll do it. And you gave him a back drop and I was so glad it was him and not me, like holy shit, oh my god. But D’Lo, man, he could work like Malenko for the 285 pound guy at the time.
And Dwayne is the most studied guy that I was ever around. Meticulous notes. Always practicing something that he was going to say, using it on you in the car, at a restaurant, in the hotel. Like, man, will you let it rest and give me a break? Like can we eat? You know, it was like he was consumed with wrestling in a way that other people weren’t consume with wrestling. And Ron Simmons, Ron was your typical father figure for all of us. And wouldn’t take no shit off none of us, even Godfather, Godfather is near the same age but he’d talk to him just like he’d talk to us. Guys, look, this is what the business requires. Until you learn that the business comes before your selfish little piece of shit idea, you won’t succeed.
You can listen to me or you can get out of this. I mean the WWE, you’re going to kick us out? No, fool, the nation, because it was his. And you just listened. And he never led you wrong. Not one time did I ever do anything that Ron Simmons told me to do that was wrong, never. And everybody in that line right there will tell you the same thing. He was just a brilliant mind for wrestling, as well as awesomely built and athletic human being. Like I mean the guy was retired at Florida State Football. And there was nobody else retired. I mean you look at all the people that ever came through Florida State University, he was the first, it speaks volumes.
Steve Austin: Yeah, to this day, he’s still revered at Florida State University. Everybody knows that Ron Simmons is the man there.
Mark Henry: Yeah, as probably the best player to ever play there and Deion Sanders went there.
Being Sent To Canada, Sexual Chocolate Character & Mae Young
Steve Austin: You’re trying to forge an identity. Was this when The Sexual Chocolate stuff came? Right after that run with The Nation.
Mark Henry: Well, the nation split up. And I resorted to some of my badness, I guess, if you will. During that time, I broke my ankle. I was frustrated. And somebody hid my crutches. And when my crutches got hid, you know, around that time Shawn Michaels and The Kliq, the guys came up and were like, man, what happened to your crutches? And I just went off on them. And didn’t go over very nice. Vince sent me to Canada to kind of, you know, let the heat blow away and for me to be not around TV, so i’m pissing them guys off. I meet Leo Burke and I started training. And I meet Owen Hart and Bret Hart and I started, you know, kind of baby siting Bret’s kids and, you know, just letting him and his wife go have a break while I worked with the kids.
Steve Austin: You would baby sit the kids and make spaghetti and all kinds of stuff.
Mark Henry: We are cooking and having a good time. I loved being in that environment, but then it came time for me to come back.
Steve Austin: But when you were down there, though, you went down there and learned a few wrist locks and headlocks from Stu Hart, and that’s kind of like — you always knew there was a place for strength in wrestling.
Mark Henry: I didn’t know. But Stu knew. And Stu was like you know what, there’s a lot of things that you can do with your strength that, boy, you could really put a lot of people in a bad way. And he started stretching and choking the shit out of me for like about two months. And I started to actually like it, like learning how to do the holds and locks. And I just took what he taught me and added it to my style. And when I went back, I was like i’m going to be this monster. I’m going to be choking people. I’m going to be doing this. And then I got in the car with Dwayne and D’Lo and it just all changed.
It was like the WWE was going back to being more entertaining and they wanted characters. And I was like, you know what, man, I’ve got this idea of being this kind of ladies man. And they are like whatever. And I was like no, no, I am going to call myself Sexual Chocolate and hang out with the ladies. D’Lo said there’s no way they are going to let you call yourself Sexual Chocolate. And i’ll be damned they liked it. And there you go, Sexual Chocolate hanging out with the ladies. Ended up holding the title, getting the European Title and that was the beginning of Mark Henry being an actual viable commodity in the business because Vince would see me when I came to arena, and he’d go, we’re gonna do this today. And, you know, when you see Vince all giddy and everything, I don’t care what he’s said do, I’m doing it because he’s excited. That was the thing. We had a ball doing Sexual Chocolate.
Steve Austin: I got this picture right here. What was it like working with Mae Young?
Mark Henry: Listen, she has a tattoo on her forearm of an anchor. Not many ladies walking around with a tattoo with an anchor, like a sailor on her arm. She was a tough, tough, tough woman. Man, she told me a story one time of her in Dallas. And a guy coming up, hey, we got a place for you to dress over here, but not in the locker room. She was just going to dress in the locker room with the boys. He said play your cards right, after the matches, i’ll take you. And she was like, well, I mean you might want to zip your pants up when you’re in front of a lady. And the dude looks down to zip his pants and she kicks him in the balls and stomps the shit out of him. She’s like, you’re going to respect me. She would not take people disrespecting her. And she carved a way for all these women doing great in the wrestling world now. Like that lady right there is one of those that, you know, set the path.
Steve Austin: Like I take it that you enjoyed working with her.
Mark Henry: I enjoyed working with her so much, Steve. I learned a lot, you know. She always told me stories and we rode together. She did a lot of sleeping. And I got to listen to whatever I wanted to listen to. But I had a ball, man, she was special.
Steve Austin: I’ve got to ask you. When you’re driving her down the road, you wasn’t doing your White Knuckle Special, driving 100 miles an hour?
Mark Henry: Yes, I was. And she never sold it, never said a word to me about the driving. You know how many times I got pulled over, Steve? I mean I got pulled over at least 20 times in my career. And I only got one ticket in all those 20 times. I talked my way out of it until the paint dried, Steve. I was not going to get a ticket.
– Steve and Mark breaks down the film of the infamous birth of the hand segment.
Steve Austin: Hey, take me in the room when who pitched this to you.
Mark Henry: Bruce Prichard and Vince. And I’m asking Vince, i’m like, Vince, why a hand? It was a hand and just laughing his evil hysterical laugh. And i’m like still to this day, Steve, don’t get why a hand. Man, there’s no comedy that I have ever watched in my life that was funnier than that day. And if you watch me, i’m laughing the whole time. I mean, it was just, oh my god, I couldn’t even do my job. I’m trying to look like i’m worried about her.
Steve Austin: But he was fully on board with that. When he gets fully on board with something, he’s going to push it to the moon. That’s one of the things I like about Vince. He gets excited about stuff. When he starts dancing and going through the motions, he’s really feeling the character. The 20 by 20 and the squared circle, that’s kind of proving ground where you’re going to display your craft. Put on a match like the hall of pain. I mean, you were enforcing everything that you were as a force in the wrestling industry. It’s those character building moments, those skits or vignettes are the icing on the cake.
Mark Henry: That made people care. It’s not about the winning or losing. It’s about I like Mark Henry now. Man, that was cool. Why are you hurting him? Now I can reach into the crowd like help me. And they feel me. I get people reaching back. I would have guys that when I was the heavy and guys would be selling, I was like, man, start crawling reaching toward the camera because that’s who you’re trying to reach. That’s where you get the people emotionally invested. You’re going to get maybe 20,000 in the arena, but you’re going to get 5 million at home. And I just wanted to make sure the people were emotionally invested in everything I did because it made easier. You didn’t have to climb up to the top of the tron to get over, if they cared.
Steve Austin: How much fun were you having at that point? And you were starting to come into a really good understanding of the business?
Mark Henry: I was having a ball, Steve. That was probably the most fun that I had had at that point. And even more than me having fun, I started to feel the business. In Stars Wars Terms, the force became strong with me. If I had to be in there for seven minutes, nobody had to tell me the time. I could feel the time. And when it got to six minutes, it was like this needs to be fast, explosive and I want everybody’s attention right here, right now. And I was able to do that. And not in mine, but putting myself in position for other people’s success, which is the lost art of pro wrestling.
Steve Austin: Explain.
Mark Henry: The lost art of pro wrestling is sacrificing yourself to accentuate someone else to get them over. And it is in the process of getting somebody else over, you get yourself over. It’s not always who goes over. It’s who gets over. I’ve gotten over in losses and been more important than guys that have won and got titles.
Steve Austin: Agreed completely.
Mark Henry: It’s an art form. You have to study it and you have to really love the business more than you love what’s going on within your individual character.
Working With Chyna
Steve Austin: What about the angle with Chyna?
Mark Henry: That was like the best part of being sexual chocolate, is the dealings with Chyna. Because my whole goal was to make her laugh.
Steve Austin: In between you two?
Mark Henry: Yeah. I was like i’m gonna get her today. I’ve got something, i’m gonna tell her this joke or i’m going to sweet talk her. She’s like, Mark, it’s not going to work. Will you stop it? I’m like but I love you. And she’s like I don’t love you. I’m gonna get her one of these days. And it took awhile but I was finally able to get her. And once I got her once, it was like all I have to do is just look at her. And she would start laughing. And it was real, that’s why everybody loved it, is because between us, it was real, Steve. We took it to a point where it wasn’t just pro wrestling. Like it was two people that loved what they were doing and we were sharing it with the rest of the fans.
Steve Austin: I can tell you had fun.
Mark Henry: I was having a ball.
Steve Austin: She was one of the sweetest people I ever knew. I had a great relationship with her as well. When i’d see her in the show and give her a hug, she was the silliest person in the world and a great sense of humor. I wish she was still with us. But that was some television gold.
Mark Henry: Man, like you said, there was nobody that I knew that was sweeter than her. I mean, she was really, really sweet. And I think that under different circumstances she would still be here. I think that she just got frustrated with the business. And it’s happened with all of us. You get frustrated and disenchanted. And some people just make the wrong decisions and go down the wrong road.
Steve Austin: Hey, before we get to some action down there in OVW, it was at the Brian Pillman Memorial Show you got a little bit of validation. And you had a match. And this is one of the first times that, you know, coming through all your struggles, people ribbing you, maybe not fitting in and you had a really good match, and hall of famer, one of the greatest of all time, Ricky Steamboat came and said some words to you. And how did that help you?
Mark Henry: It helped me tremendously. In wrestling, we always say you’ve got to learn to eat shit and like it. You’ve got to get broke down a lot before they build you up. And I had been beat down so much that I was at the brink of like, man, i’m done with wrestling. Like I always will be a fan, but i’m fixing to go back and play football again. And just so happened in a perfect world, Hugh Morrus at the time was at WCW, and he was running the same thing as I was running. He had made a few mistakes. He had been kind of like put over and then put on the shelf. And at the Pillman show when Brian Pillman passed, I had met him two or three times and I really liked him.
He came up to me and asked me, how did you gain all that muscle? How did you get so big? And I was like, man, I just eat a lot and I train a lot. And he was curious about the training and we probably talked, 20, 30 minutes before he even told me his name. I really liked him. They just put me and Hugh together. Y’all go out there 10 minutes, do whatever you want. Hey, just have a ball. All right. We sat and talked for a minute. And he was like, hey, man, I really need to shine, I’m on my last leg. I said me too. And we devised this plan to steal it. And the only thing that I can equate it to was how I see Keith Lee work. Two big 285, 400 pounds dude out there leapfrogging, arm-dragging, selling for each other.
We did stuff that made sense for what we were as big guys. And after that match was over, the referee told us, y’all need to go and shake hands. And we shook hands and the crowd just went nuts. And we hugged each other. And we walked out of the ring. We were sitting on the floor in the back. And Ricky Steamboat walked up. He said, man, it’s good to see that psychology still exists in our business. And that was the first time that anybody every included me in its “our” business. And I just broke down. I’m super emotional. And I always say that if you see me crying, you need to either run or embrace me because i’m at a critical point where i’m going to go one way or the other. It’s a good crying, you know. A lot of people say it’s weakness when you’re emotional. I’m stronger when i’m emotional. I’m faster. I feel like I can jump higher. Man, like it’s just something about it that makes me better.
OVW & Returning To Strong Man Competitions
Steve Austin: I know there was a part in you career when you got sent down to OVW. Why were you sent back to OVW?
Mark Henry: The time I went down to OVW was the time I came back from Canada. I came back from Canada and I gained probably 30 pounds. And I was about 420, 430. They said you need to drop some weight and they sent me down there to get it together. And I was on a pace, on a weight scale. And this is one of the pictures I got down from 430 to about 350, 345 at that time. I can fit into my sexual chocolate stuff, so that tells you how much weight I lost. You know, I just had to get my weight together and not eat like I was still power lifting. I had to just cut it down.
Steve Austin: I want to ask you about a time when you felt you were being disrespected by the strong man community because you were calling yourself the world’s strongest man and you were a professional wrestler, sports entertainer. And, all of a sudden, these guys start calling you out. You’re like, hey, man, i’m still that guy. And you went and had a conversation with Vince. Tell me about how that went down, because I mean you put it all on the line here.
Mark Henry: Well, literally. During that time, my mother had passed. I had been away from wrestling. And all I did was train to take my mind off the whole situation. I spent hours in the gym. I’d go to the gym, you know, 1:00 after lunch and I wouldn’t go back to the hospital to see my mom until 4:00 or 5:00. And during that time, I started to get all my strength back. I mean I found myself in the gym with five guys going, hey, man, I need a spot. I
‘m putting eight wheels on in a regular gym. I wasn’t in a facility where it was safe for me to train that way. And Vince basically said, hey, man, just go away. My mom finally died from cancer. And it was a tough time, but I got the time to deal with it And right about that time, muscle & fitness has this article where these guys are doing these strong man shows. And it’s like, we are the real strong men, not like Mark Henry, who is saying he’s the strongest man in the world, but he don’t compete. I’m sensitive.
I’m telling you, like my book should be entitled too sensitive, but that’s not it. But I was angry. And I went to Vince and I said, look, man, these dudes has basically said i’m calling myself the strongest man in the world and I shouldn’t be because i’m not. And Vince said, well, we’re sports entertainment and you don’t have to be. And I said, no, I do have to be. I was like they challenged me. I said I need to go and I need to compete and win this thing. And then there will be nothing else to be said. And he said, well, I mean you have drawn the line in the sand. If that’s what you want to do, i’ll give you the time to go see it. But i’m going to tell you, there’s no place here for the second strongest man. All right, I get it. And I left there with the intent on destroying them dudes.
Steve Austin: Failure was not an option.
Mark Henry: There was no option. And that’s my whole life.
– We see a clip of Mark Henry competing at the 2002 Arnold Classic.
Mark Henry: That’s why Vince wanted me to wrestle. Because he knew that I was more than a strong man. I was an entertainer. I entertained when I competed. I was different. And for me to sit here and not sound arrogant is impossible when I say what i’m about to say. I’m the greatest strong man that has ever lived. And I did it clean, no cheating. God gave me something that other men didn’t have. I’m very accomplished and I love everything that I ever done. But the number one thing is the fact that I realized that I didn’t do it by myself. I always shared with people that deserved that attention. My coaches, my trainers. Vince McMahon, for having the vision of seeing me do that kind of thing and go, that dude should be wrestling. There would be no Mark Henry if he didn’t say, hey, that dude is entertaining. I give credit where credit is due.
Steve Austin: One of the things that clip doesn’t show because that was a short clip, when you go out there and you start snatching that thing up, it’s like they are trying to no sell you, but in the back, if you look at everybody’s faces, they are kind of stone faced and they are like, holy shit, really, are you shitting me?
Mark Henry: But even worse, is if they had showed all of them try it, and then you see me lift it. It’s me lifting it is like, oh, mmm, it’s delicious. With them, it’s like, damnit. And six of the eight guys couldn’t get it off the ground.
Steve Austin: You came back in and you’re good with the world of strength.
Mark Henry: I am. I’m back. I feel like i’ve said my part, done what I needed to do. Now i’m the strongest guy on earth. And Vince goes, no more Sexual Chocolate, no more this, no more that. You are the strongest man in the world. Go be the strongest man in the world in the ring.
Steve Austin: You went out and proved the world you are indeed the world’s strongest man. And on the show, Monday Night Raw, they included many of your feats of strength. This was one of the ones I think was very impressive. I think you could lead me through this and tell me what’s up.
Mark Henry: So everybody is betting whether or not that this is going to happen. And Ron is the ring master, like listen.
– We see a clip of Mark Henry holding back a moving limousine.
Steve Austin: So what happened when Terry Todd, your coach/mentor, saw this footage?
Mark Henry: I got a phone call. And this was in the zip phone. You remember the bag phones? Like I felt like I had came up. I bought me a bag phone. I’m in the car driving to the next town, and I got told how stupid that was and how dangerous that was and what could have gone wrong.
Steve Austin: But that was impressive.
Mark Henry: It was defintiely one of those moments that when they put me in the ground, that people will say did you ever see him hold that car back with his legs.
Steve Austin: Hey, wasn’t there an overseas tour where there was a car parked in front of the bus and you moved the car out of the way? What happened then? I remember someone telling me that story.
Mark Henry: Yeah. In Blackpool, that arena was downtown. And those little roads, the bus barely could get down those roads with the cars on both sides. And somebody had parked their car like where the edge of the car was in the road and the bus couldn’t — it would have t-boned the car. They said, well, we had drove down that road probably a mile. So we were going to have to either wait for somebody to come and move the car or we was going to have to back up and go another way.
And mind you, it’s 2:30 or 3:00 in the morning driving to the next town. And I just got mad, got off the bus and was like where’s the car. And grabbed the front of the car, lift it and bounce it and threw the car over to where it slammed into the curb. And then I got back on the bus and Steve Regal was sitting in the front seat. And he was like, Henry, don’t ever get mad and touch anybody. And just leaned over and went back to sleep and I walked to the back of the bus. And I remember the next morning, all the guys, it was like I came to breakfast and it was just a huge standing ovation. It was like I entertained the boys.
Steve Austin: Yeah, but it’s one of those cases where like, man, first of all, when you are anywhere and you’re running late, but especially when overseas and those days start adding up and then some numbskull got their car parked in the road so it’s impeding your progress and you just can’t get to the next town.
Mark Henry: I was not going to sit there and wait.
Steve Austin: I mean I might have been able to pickup the car because I was so mad, i’m kidding you. So, it’s like just the little things like that, it’s like thank god someone was strong enough to move the damn car out of the way. At what point were you the most frustrated with the business? Because I mean there were times when I was in those same shoes where I have had many moments like that. Seemingly I was on top of the world.
Mark Henry: I tore my knee up. And Dr. Andrews thought that I was never going to wrestle again. He said i’ve never seen this much damage at one time. Over years. But I tore my IT Band, I tore my patella tendon, broke my kneecap in half and tore my PCL all at the same time.
Steve Austin: Doing what?
Mark Henry: Being stupid. I had match against Kurt Angle, and I was going to put him through a table, splash him through the table. But the leg broke off the table. And rather than throwing that table away and getting another table, I just propped it up on the wall on the guardrail. And I jumped from the apron to the table and hit me my knee square on the concrete, boom, and broke my kneecap in half. And for about two or three weeks, my kneecap would get off center. So I would sit on the floor and let somebody step on it to pop it back into place.
And I just kept wrestling. I was too stupid to stop and just go get the surgery. So all the time, it was just sawing everything apart in there. And I took off running on tv against Rey Mysterio and it just came apart. Boom, just everything and tore stuff that probably wouldn’t have torn if I hadn’t been running. And the kneecap sawed all the ligaments and tendons up. So I went and got it fixed. And I just felt like at that the time, like, man, i’m never going to be champion. My career is going to be me just in the middle of the road, you know. I made a little change. I can go and do something else and transition. I just felt like that was it.
The Hall Of Pain
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Steve Austin: Were you losing your passion for the business? Were you stuck in a rut?
Mark Henry: I was losing it, man. I was stuck in one place. And I felt like it wasn’t going to get better. And man, I just started training again. It was like getting those calls, hey, you in the gym? Yeah, i’m in the gym. All right, i’ll see you in a few weeks then. Just like stuff started getting better. And when I came back, I go into having my first chance at a title match and got hurt again. I dislocated my shoulder, tore the labrum, had to go on the shelf again. And at this point, I really get it now. I really get it. And I come back from that and now it’s 2011. And I come back and it’s Hall Of Pain time.
Steve Austin: What instigated that? Whose idea was that?
Mark Henry: Mostly it was Vince’s. Pretty much the whole hall of pain era started with a rib. It funny how it goes back to the beginning of my wrestling career, Vince McMahon ribbed me.
Steve Austin: I love this story.
Mark Henry: He took me out into the ring and said I was going to have a match against Sin Cara. Now, i’m standing there in ring, nobody comes out. I go to the referee, Scott Armstrong. I said, Scott, what’s going on, where’s he at? He’s like they are rewrapping his knee, I think. That’s what they just told me, they are rewrapping his knee. Now i’m pissed at Sin Cara. If he came out, I was going to hurt him, because I feel like this is disrespecting the business. Now i’m pissed. I jump through the ropes. I come to the back. It’s a ghost town. Nobody is there. And I just started destroying it. Tearing shit down and pulling the lights and punching the walls, like Darth Vader, I just wanted everything to melt.
And I go down the hallway. And I kick Vince’s door open and he’s gone. And I come out and then poor little Ryan Ward, one of the writers is there. I’m like, where are they? He’s like, Mark, I ain’t got nothing to do with it. Like, they left and went to the airport. I started calling Vince. I was like, man, I quit. Like this is the last time. Nobody ribs me, I’m a grown as man, yada, yada, yada. And I get home, my wife, of course is like, look, you got bills to pay. You can’t quit. And I was like yes, I can. We did good. I mean he don’t respect me. And Vince calls and he’s like, man, why did you get so bent out of shape about that? I mean, we was just playing. I was like, man, I don’t deserve that.
I love this business and I respect you. And I feel like I opened myself up for you to disrespect me. I was like it’s obvious you don’t respect me. And you damn sure don’t fear me, so we don’t need to talk no more. And he was like, listen, i’m sorry. And he was remorsefully sorry. He was like, look, I apologize. I don’t want you to quit. You are too valuable to us. And you just got too much left to stop. I said I can’t go through that again. I was like that’s a deal breaker. And he said, okay, can I show you something? I said, oh, god, what’s going on now? And he showed me the footage of me in the ring angry. And me coming back and then the camera goes off and it freezes.
Have you ever seen the scene of the Sasquatch where they were like they caught the Sasquatch in the woods? And that’s where it ended. He was like that’s the most visibly afraid I have ever seen on screen in years and years. And he said, if you can do that in the ring, he was like you can make a lot of money. And I said that guy will kill everybody. The business will be over. I can’t control that. He said yes, you can. And I learned something about myself. I learned that I can control my emotions better than I thought I could. And I was able to portray that hatred, that anger, that negativity and thus the hall of pain was born. And I went through the rest of my career kind of being the monster.
Steve Austin: But I remember you telling me when I was in Austin, Texas, when you watched yourself on screen, you couldn’t believe that was you.
Mark Henry: I didn’t, I didn’t recognize. No, I had never been that visibly angry in my life. And it was all the bad shit, fights, nothing. If i’d have been that guy in a fight, i’d have killed somebody and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Steve Austin: But also you didn’t know if you could control it. But there was one other factor where you also didn’t want to perpetuate a negative.
Mark Henry: Yeah, i’ve got to this point of my life, you know, god found me. I didn’t find god. I realized that there is some specialness to me. Little kids love me. I never met a kid that was like, ahhh, even as big and scary as I look to myself. And I didn’t want kids to see me like that. And I realized that i’m an entertainer. And I do TV and Radio. And some of it is informative, but also there’s me in there. I didn’t want that negative stigma of big black dude scaring everybody. I realized that there is a balance. I have to let people be the judge of what they want their kids to see. And that gave me more of a solace and understanding that I shouldn’t be responsible. I should go out and do my job.
Steve Austin: In the Hall Of Pain run, everything that you’ve been through, you’re putting all the pieces together. You have channeled this anger or energy. You know how to harness it and use it in a positive manner. So then it culminates in a world championship going against Randy Orton. What did finally being the world champion mean to you?
Mark Henry: Validation. It told the world and told the guys that I worked with, everyone that was in the developmental process to the fact that when I made it to the point where I was the guy that the show was structured around. That journey meant something and that it was accomplished, you won. Like everything that you did mattered. My whole life, man, I just wanted to win. I just wanted to succeed. I wanted to prove to people that I mattered. And that I day mattered.
She was pissed and I’m glad she was pissed. And I told them I was never going to lose it because the way championships work is once a champion, always a champion. They are never going to say you lost, you can’t be the champion no more. No. Once you are there, you are always there. For the rest of my life, the 138 guys that held that title prior to me getting it, I was the 139th at that point — i’m listed in that name of 135 men throughout history.
Steve Austin: Winning the championship, going through a great match, going through a get program, when that referee hits the three count, and it’s like that release because it’s over, you accomplished the task at hand and then it’s that energy hits.
Mark Henry: The fastest I ever recovered from a match in my life. Sometimes I would be huffing and puffing, and I would get to the back. And i’d put my hands on my legs, it’s taking a while to catch my breath. When the referee handed me that title, I could have wrestled for another 30 minutes. I don’t know why, but that was the proudest wrestling moment that I ever had. But it validated the fact that all of the work that I did, all of the sacrifices.
Steve Austin: But finally here, getting validated a couple of times along the way in your career, like from the compliment from Steamboat at the Pilllman Memorial, and from not being on the chosen one, you are the chosen one.
Mark Henry: So it was a wonderful feeling. I can’t explain to you what it felt like, even though I know you know what it felt like. If I said, Steve, how did you feel when you won that championship, what was the emotion, you would be confused as hell, just like I am. Because it was all of them. I cried, I laughed. I felt like this overwhelming sense to like, man, I want to show everybody. I couldn’t wait to get to the back to take a picture. I wanted to call my family. I don’t think I had face time back then, but if I did, I would have used it. Like I was lost. I was completely out of my element for the first in my life.
Steve Austin: It looks to me in that picture, it’s like, hey, man, maybe not everybody else thought I was ever going to hold this thing and maybe I didn’t even either, but I got it. I remember when I won that first one at WrestleMania 14 against Shawn and I held that thing up, Mike Tyson was the referee. He quick counted, but, man, when I held that belt up in the air, it’s almost like you got that shit right. Fuck you, I mean, to everybody who had ever discounted me and I was going to be the journeyman and I was never going to be anybody. Came in as The Ring Master, was just going to be a mechanic. So when I won that belt, there was many emotions. But one of the biggest ones was, hey, man, I proved a lot of motherfuckers wrong who said I was never going to be shit.
Mark Henry: You show me and JR in the ring together. When JR, I told you that I was going to be something in this business. When I sat in the office with you and Vince, and you told Vince, you know what, I think he ain’t going to make it. I think you ought to cut your losses now, pay him whatever you owe him and let him go on about his business because I don’t think that, you know, it’s going to work out. I grabbed his tie and I wringed it. And I squeezed it. And he’s like you’re choking me. And I said I know i’m choking you. Who am I? You’re the world champion. You damn right, I’m the wold champion, you can breathe now.
Steve Austin: So you were in the room when he said, Vince, cut his losses. All these years later, you said here’s what’s up. I never knew that. I think you made your point.
Mark Henry: Yeah, I think so. And there’s nobody that I love more now than Jim Ross. Because he’s been a mentor to me in radio. And he’s one of the most descriptive storytellers that ever was. And he says if you think about the people you are talking to, not knowing anything and you have to describe to them and make them see a big picture, the greatest people that ever were were the baseball announcers in the 80’s. Because they could tell you a baseball game, the field, and what’s going on and how it’s going just from them describing it to you. And that’s what Jim told me to try to do. Try to describe it, be descriptive and be overly descriptive. And the steel, tell them what kind of steel it is. Tell them to look at the finish on the steel. Like tell those stories and be descriptive. I learned a lot from him.
Steve Austin: I never heard it put like that, but that makes a lot of sense.
Mark Henry: I was taught. It wasn’t because I just knew.
Steve Austin: What was your favorite part of that run?
Mark Henry: You know, my favorite part is kind of like that old where the tire meets the road. I was at the peak of my strength. And I came into the peak of my understanding of pro wrestling. And they both were balanced at that point. I could work with anybody, a broomstick if I had to. And I was still strong, like really strong. And there’s a video of when that era started, of me picking up Big Show. Big Show was 465, 470 at the time. And I picked him up to here, to my chest.
And then when I went to give him The World’s Strongest Slam, in my mind i’m like i’m going to put him through this table. But what really happened is, I had him here and my face changed, and you see this coming over me. And I picked him up over my head and spiked him through the table. And I remember getting to the back, and Kane walking up to me, that’s the most impressive thing I ever saw in my life. He said i’ve never seen nothing like that. He said that was incredible. And he was like a kid, like reverence. And I realized that I can do stuff as a wrestler with my strength that people never seen before.
Steve Austin: Who was your favorite opponent and why?
Mark Henry: Oh, my god. Favorite, I would have to say The Undertaker because I learned the most. And i’m a proponent, strong proponent of learning even when people think that you have it all figured out. You can always learn something from somebody. And the fact that it was like going to a rock and roll show where it’s like, ahhh, just this constant, phew, I can’t explain it. There’s no other wrestler that i’ve been in the ring — i’ve been in the ring with Flair, Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, you name outstanding competitors, i’ve been in the ring with them. And it was never constant. And The Undertaker is constant.
It’s like he’s above wrestling somehow. And I could scream as loud as I could scream and this close you can’t hear me. I just loved that feeling of being in the ring with him. So, far as the most fun, it was Fit Finlay. I loved working with him. We had so much fan, man, that you could work 30 minutes and not even realized that you have been in the ring that long. I mean it was like you forget. You could just do anything, him and Jamie Noble. If Jamie Noble would have been 6 ft and 220 pounds, he would have been you. He was special. I loved working with him, brilliant mind. Come up with like finishes and just telling stories. I mean just, golly, I wish he would have been a bigger dude.
Steve Austin: Now that you are doing what you are doing and you go back and you mentor some people, you mentioned Keith Lee, who I am really impressed by, tremendous athletic skills for a guy that size. So what have you told him? How do you see his future? And that’s undetermined because he’s got to make his future.
Mark Henry: He’s got a long way to go. He was a guest on Backstage and I told him that he has brought back the big guy magic. And when I say the big guy magic, there have been guys that have transcended wrestling by their abilities for what size they are. Bam Bam Bigelow doing cartwheels, dropkicks and going to the top and doing moonsaults. And people like Vader doing moonsaults at 400 pounds. Big Show, who a lot of people have underestimated his abilities as a big man. I have seen him do dropkicks.
I have seen him grab the rope and kip up. I mean like where it just blows your mind that a human being that size can do something. And he’s the next guy. He’s the only guy that I have seen at that size that’s able to do it. And he’s bringing it back. And for a while, the WWE went to guys that were 6’2 and 250 pounds and less. He’s going to bring back the big guy in pro wrestling because he’s going to eat everyone else alive. And now it’s going to be time for bigger guys to step up. Man, I just love the fact that he’s ushering that back in.
Steve Austin: But like you said, he does have a ways to go. He’s not there yet. But he’s got a whole lot of potential. Coming from Silsbee, Texas coming up with a pretty rough life and been in some rough spots, and then to accomplish everything that you have accomplished, any words of advice to any kids out there? Because I know you love kids. Just as far as I believe in always telling kids, arm yourself with as much knowledge or education as possible. You know, don’t take any shortcuts, but because you lived everything and you have accomplished so much, words of advice or motivation to anybody out there?
Mark Henry: My number one thing would be humble yourself. My blessings came when I humbled myself. Unbridled power and arrogance, not so much I had a lot of hard knocks. But once I humbled myself, things took off. And know what you don’t know. Find somebody that knows more than you. Stop hanging in circles where you’re the biggest fish. Like don’t feel intimidated by somebody’s knowledge, strength, power and understanding. Tell them to teach you, so you can become that guy, the girl. Ask for help.
Steve Austin: My final question, what’s in the future for Mark Henry? Will you continue with Busted Open Radio? Are there ay other endeavors that you’d like to get into? I know you are raising two great kids, a great family. What’s next for Mark Henry?
Mark Henry: You know, man, I hope to get the sponsorship to be able to accomplish my days of service. I do a day of service where I partner with a famous beer company, Maestros. And we go into certain communities that are troubled. And we shave people, cut their hair, give them clean t-shirts and build them up. We started calling it the under bridge effort because most of the people that we were reaching was the guys that was not going to the facilities where they could get help because they can’t stand the structure. Some people are mentally ill. Some of them are drug addicted. Some of them worked. I’m trying to help everybody without limits, without there being a cap. You know, I had the fortune to be able to go with Kane in Knoxville and did a day of service. And we serviced 250 people. And I want to do that all over America. And it’s just going to take some funding. But outside of that, that’s the thing I want to do the most.
Steve Austin: Everything else is cake.
Mark Henry: Everything else is cake.
Steve Austin: Hey, man, that’s a handshake right there. This is Mark Henry, The World’s Strongest Man. I’m Stone Cold Steve Austin. Thanks for watching The Broken Skull Sessions. And that’s the bottom line ’cause I said so.
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